tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post1874348749178104667..comments2024-02-29T02:10:56.878-08:00Comments on J O S H U A P U N D I T: CNN/ORC's Joke Poll....17% Weighted In Favor Of Democrats!!Freedom Fighterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-29684184062845552392012-08-10T15:45:30.087-07:002012-08-10T15:45:30.087-07:00An additional point. The polls, like CNN using reg...An additional point. The polls, like CNN using registered voters are useless. Only 63% of those people voted in 2008.<br /><br />Rasmussen, which uses likely voters has Obama down by 4 points.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-76657333350961547752012-08-10T09:30:52.093-07:002012-08-10T09:30:52.093-07:00Anonymous,
A) This article is about the CNN poll,...Anonymous,<br /><br />A) This article is about the CNN poll, not FOX<br /><br />B)If your point is 'even those neanderthal wing nuts at FOX say Obama's ahead', I would point out that FOX news is actually fairly middle of the road, and that a number of their most prominent commentators - Greta Van Sustern, Chris Wallace, Susan Estrich, Geraldo and of course, Juan WIlliams,among others - are Democrats. FOX just seems right wing because they have a few people who are admittedly conservative like Sean Hannity, and mostly because most of the rest of the media is skewed so far left.<br /><br />BTW, looking at the FOX poll, they're quite open about having grossly oversampled Hispanics 'in order to analyze that subgroup'.<br /><br />Other revealing figures from the poll...among <i>interested voters</i> who've been following things closely, Obama and Romney are tied, at 48%. That shows that the president's barrage of lying and misleading negative ads has merely kept things even.<br /><br />And 15% of the people polled as Obama supporters say they're not sure and may change their minds.<br /><br />Based on that, I still say it's Romney's race to lose, but we'll see in November.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13332213651195340500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-84233936810938002442012-08-10T08:58:15.384-07:002012-08-10T08:58:15.384-07:00Hello Zachriel,
Since the PDF only names party aff...Hello Zachriel,<br />Since the PDF only names party affiliation in the question I noted, which was limited to Republicans and Republican leaning independents according to the pollsters themselves, it's a clear indication of how many were polled..as compared to Democrats and Democrat leaning independents.<br /><br />But you raise two points of interest. <br /><br />First, there's no indication of how many non-leaning independents there were. But if we look at the poll, 3% of both 'registered voters' and 'all respondents' chose neither candidate. That's a pretty good indication of how many 'non leaning independents' there were. It amounts to 30 respondents among all adults, and 27 if we're talking about registered voters.<br /><br />Let's figure that into our results.<br /><br />491 Republicans still equals 41.5% of the sample of all respondents. Subtract 30 respondents from 591, and you get 561 Democrats or democrat leaning independents. That works out to 55.6%, an oversampling of a mere 14.4%. <br /><br />14.4%!!<br /><br />The other point you raised is the smaller sample of 911 registered voters also provided.That is indeed the poll showing Obama with a 7% lead, and the one CNN used in its headline. <br /><br />However, there's effectively no way to tell how many Republicans,Democrats, leaning independents, or non-leaning independents were polled as registered voters,because the pollsters (deliberately, in my opinion) don't include a breakdown. So I'm limiting my figures to the total amount of respondents,1010, because we can extrapolate <i>those</i> figures.<br /><br />As you notice, Obama's purported lead is even greater among 'all adults', jumping to 11 points, not 7.<br /><br />So anyway you slice it, this is a seriously skewed 'poll'.<br /><br />Regards,<br />RobRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13332213651195340500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-38186035627720134062012-08-10T08:33:02.852-07:002012-08-10T08:33:02.852-07:00Fox News Obama 9 points over Romney.
http://www.f...Fox News Obama 9 points over Romney.<br /><br />http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/09/fox-news-poll-obama-lead-grows-as-romney-support-slips/<br /><br />But of course Fox News is a famously liberal organization, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-45145551391246336282012-08-10T07:44:19.942-07:002012-08-10T07:44:19.942-07:00Rob: The PDF shows they reportedly polled '1,0...<b>Rob</b>: <i>The PDF shows they reportedly polled '1,010 adult Americans' with a margin of error of ' plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.' </i><br /><br />That's right, but they only included registered voters in the results concerning the 7-point lead. <br /><br /><b>Rob</b>: <i>Subtract 419 from 1010 and you get 591 people who aren't Republicans or independents leaning Republican. </i><br /><br />Only 911 registered voters, so 46% were leaning Republican, leaving 54% leaning Democratic OR non-leaning Independents. <br /><br />The report should have shown the demographic breakdown. But it's important to realize that these are measured results, not weighted results.Zachrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11268229653808829377noreply@blogger.com