tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post374625033140541485..comments2024-02-29T02:10:56.878-08:00Comments on J O S H U A P U N D I T: Why There's Nothing Wrong With Feeding Schoolkids DinnerFreedom Fighterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-8445776581407783822010-10-24T15:34:50.113-07:002010-10-24T15:34:50.113-07:00Woh, are a lot of people wrong on this one! Every ...Woh, are a lot of people wrong on this one! Every minute the students are in school, they are being fed leftist ideology. I'm the rare conservative teacher, and I can tell ya that schools WANT to take over family life. They are just considering it one more step toward collectivism and "social justice."<br /><br />Did you ever hear about the wolf in sheep's clothing? Under the guise of "helping" the kids, more and more family time is encroached upon. The person who said it is "mission creep" is absolutely right.<br /><br />There are many in the education system who want schools to be 24-hour neighborhood centers. And if that happens, the government, not the family, will be deciding who needs what services when -- and it will be mandated.<br /><br />You want to feed hungry kids? Fine. But do it through private means. Go DO IT, instead of trusting the government to handle this type of charity for you. It gives them too much power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-39668657830747908132010-10-21T12:05:32.981-07:002010-10-21T12:05:32.981-07:00the article says;
One of them came up with the ent...the article says;<br /><i>One of them came up with the entirely correct insight that as the school system takes over more and more of the functions of family, more and more families stop functioning.</i><br /><br />i think this commenter has the cart before the horse. these families have stopped functioning long before big government has stepped in. this sounds like the only shovel ready project around. shovel food in their bellies.<br />at least big government isn't giving this money to dead people.louielouienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-58098561899923077382010-10-21T11:31:21.457-07:002010-10-21T11:31:21.457-07:00Hello Anonymous.
This is an interesting discussio...Hello Anonymous.<br /><br />This is an interesting discussion, which is what this site is all about.<br /><br />You wrote: "what is worse is many of the kids taking advantage of this shameful giveaway are illegally in this country and are thus not legally eligible for government funded aid."<br /><br />I would assume that DC, like many localities does not check immigration status when it determines eligibility for the program, just as it likely doesn't when it comes to enrolling kids in school.<br /><br />If your argument is that we should deny public assistance and the use of our schools to the children of illegal aliens, that's a different argument.<br /><br />I share your concerns the US is not actually enforcing its immigration laws..but meanwhile,these kids are physically here. What's your solution?<br /><br />I would agree with you that like most welfare programs, this is probably being laxly enforced, and I'm all for better enforcement of these programs. But what about the kids who actually are needy and qualify?<br /><br />Let's assume your correct and the parent(s) get AFDC. Let's further assume that some of these parents are scamming the system, which is likely true. Throw the kids off the program and you are not only make them victims of a crime they had no part in but you are exacerbating a cycle that will end up costing the taxpayers lots more money than simply giving kids a few free meals.<br /><br />And if the kids are in public schools and getting fed, there's at least a chance to change the culture.<br /><br />Think about it.<br /><br />Regards,<br />RobFreedom Fighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-1204201021606190772010-10-21T11:05:10.315-07:002010-10-21T11:05:10.315-07:00Is feeding the greedy or lazy a mitzvah?? With ve...Is feeding the greedy or lazy a mitzvah?? With very few exceptions these kids parents get welfare and foodstamps. What was the foodstamps for?? I would have guessed the foodstamps were to feed the kids. Does that mean the parents have committed welfare fraud? And if they get the food stamps and don't feed their kids is that child abuse?? Isn't stoping child abuse a mitzvah??<br /> <br />Rosey; the schools feed them dinner and even feed them in the summer. But what is worse is many of the kids taking advantage of this shameful giveaway are illegally in this country and are thus not legally eligible for government funded aid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-72608339179388161442010-10-21T06:36:36.472-07:002010-10-21T06:36:36.472-07:00Hi Y'all,
These are all great arguments. And I...Hi Y'all,<br />These are all great arguments. And I understand that the way these programs are applied now is a disaster.I said as much in the article.<br /><br />The public schools <i>are</i> lousy, which is why I pay high property taxes that fund something I'm unable to use for my own children as well as private school tuition.<br /><br />As Mr. Bill would say, I feel your pain, up close and personal.<br /><br />But as I alos point out, cutting these programs actually ends up costing more, if you think about it in terms of what the logical result would be.Unless you're willing to legally mandate who is allowed to have kids and who isn't and enforce it with mandatory abortions (something I think we all oppose) the problem continues to perpetuate itself.<br /><br />And the kids suffer for something that isn't their fault,again one of the arguments used by pro-life activists.<br /><br />Take these programs, give them ninja oversight to ward off the grifters (maybe with a work or volunteer requirement for the parents), put together a voucher program to allow all parents to choose their schools, and most of all mandate the teaching of American values and citizenship the way it used to be done and you change the culture of dependency, using the schools as a tool.<br /><br />Just because it isn't being done now doesn't mean it couldn't be.<br /><br />Regards,<br />RobFreedom Fighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-36043725096125583832010-10-21T04:01:13.312-07:002010-10-21T04:01:13.312-07:00Feeding the hungry is a mitzvah. I do not care the...Feeding the hungry is a mitzvah. I do not care the reason. For shame on those that would allow others to go hungry, especially children for any reason especially for some political philosophy. If you want their parents to provide better then you need to also teach these parents a new job skill, help the economy so that there is job creation and probably teach parenting skills. When there has been family dysfunction for generations you just can't say "abra cadabra" fix it. It is a process and it doesn't happen over night. But in the end it is the innocents that need our help and should not be overlooked. This is the problem with so many conservatives today, they forget that there is a reason for government and for me the reason why I pay my taxes. My taxes go not just for an army, police and roads, but it goes to help those who can't help themselves become productive citizens. Everyone in this nation is a part of the future.I want their children to be productive members of the future that they will share with MY children.Also these nasty pieces of work that don't want to feed hungry children, where is it written that one day that may not be you and yours in one way or another? For shame on them. They are why I steadfastly remain an independent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-48490583272951580582010-10-21T03:33:29.608-07:002010-10-21T03:33:29.608-07:00And you know that I respectfully disagree.
My obj...And you know that I respectfully disagree.<br /><br />My objection is less about helping the less fortunate than it is about the constant "mission creep" that is being imposed on public schools that take the focus of educational institutions off of the primary mission (education) and instead tries to turn schools into one stop social service centers.<br /><br />Besides, if we are going to place all parental responsibilities on schools, the eventual move of too many government bureaucrats and school administrators (and yes, I know I repeat myself) is to try to usurp the rights of all parents in response. What next? Mandatory boarding school (on the taxpayer dime) for those deemed not to be providing adequate housing for their families?Rhymes With Righthttp://rhymeswithright.mu.nunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-59099815833738891172010-10-21T00:10:27.673-07:002010-10-21T00:10:27.673-07:00I lost ya FF. And you depressed me. Our public sch...I lost ya FF. And you depressed me. Our public schools suck. I was waiting for you to criticize the schools for feeding the kids dinner, but you didn't. By the way, what time is dinner at public school? Yes this is a function that the families should perform. I live in the People's Republic of Oregon, which sits atop your home insane asylum, and I was blown away to see signs here for the free breakfast program being extended through the summer! I'm beginning to wonder why I play by the rules. I think I should apply for food stamps. And maybe even welfare. I sold my house and took a hit. Should I have stayed and stopped paying to get a modification? (No because I had substantial equity and the house is worth less now than when I sold it). What's the point of this late night rant? We're going to hell in a hand basket! We are rewarding failure and punishing success. Dysfunctional public schools are replacing dysfunctional families, and China and Russia, former communist countries are turning out more scientists and engineers than we are...Atlas Shrugged is the new reality...Roseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05831258809546539352noreply@blogger.com