tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post4385488051259243327..comments2024-02-29T02:10:56.878-08:00Comments on J O S H U A P U N D I T: The Message of MumbaiFreedom Fighterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-32794519166894257352008-12-15T09:11:00.000-08:002008-12-15T09:11:00.000-08:00Unfortunately they haven't, and that's due in no s...<B>Unfortunately they haven't, and that's due in no small measure to the tolerance and encouragement given by the current occupant of the White House to the Saudis and their wahabi takeover of America's mosques and madrassahs and Saudi and UAE funded front groups like CAIR and MPAC.</B><BR/><BR/>That makes perfect sense that Bush himself believed what you yourself, believed about Muslims. That most of them, 60% or otherwise, could or were allies and that a Holy War against a billion Muslims, a Crusade, was unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>Even Afghanistan and Iraq were targeted, primarily, against governments while ignoring the people in those governments: at least until Petraeus came on the scene to change the macroscopic strategy.<BR/><BR/><B>At that point, Muslims will insist on changing things themselves...or not, but that will be their choice to make.</B><BR/><BR/>Europe had the Italian city states to provide them a context from which to "change" things and the Gutenberg printing press, along with various other religious schisms, provided the religious and political motivation for the change.<BR/><BR/>The world of the Muslims, however, only have a reason to solidify against the infidels: our culture, our technology, and our pop idols that they see as threats to their own culture.<BR/><BR/>The fact that Bush didn't bluff or land any divisions in Tbilisi is also an indication that Bush himself does not want war with Russia, same as he did not want war with the entire Muslim world.<BR/><BR/>What is lacking here is will, due to the overabundance of luxury and time. But time is running short, more so for foreigners than for us, but for us as well given Obama. Which will only speed the deterioration of the world's stability. Given Somalian pirates getting funded to the tune of multiple hundreds of millions from hostage takings and ship captures, given Mumbai, given Mexico's problems, and given the internal state of America with our identity politics and the state of Europe increasingly falling to Islamic demographics, this will create several sectors from which a weakened America will no longer be able to sustain stability and stasis in the world.<BR/><BR/>There was only ever two choices. The third choice, ignoring things and going back to Fortress America, would have meant giving up. So the first choice, made by Bush, was to change the political climate of the Middle East, while getting rid of the most notable WMD threats and safe havens for terrorists with international support (which meant Iraq, not Iran or Saudi Arabia). If that didn't work, if the change in political climate in the Middle East did not provide the solution, then America would be left with the second choice. An expansionist and real empire on the model of the Romans, and not the Europeans.<BR/><BR/>Even now, political restraints, external (UN) and internal are preventing the US military from fighting Somali pirates. The UN are worried about "deaths to Somali civilians", of course in reality the UN have always been worried about deaths to Somali, Arab, African, murderers and rapists, but still. The fact that America agrees and will listen to them, perhaps even more under an obama, is a strict warning to nations like India and Japan that they will have to solve their own problems with their own navies. And so ends the stasis of this world, where nations can no longer rely upon America or the Cold War to keep business in a state of status quo.<BR/><BR/>Now everything is up for grabs, for those have the power, the cleverness, the cunning, or the will and resources to take it all.Ymarsakarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11246906722493964175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-88876824083303904922008-12-15T09:01:00.000-08:002008-12-15T09:01:00.000-08:00Muslims believe in Inshallah. Now we are seeing th...Muslims believe in Inshallah. Now we are seeing that it isn't simply Iraqi Arab Muslims that believe so.<BR/><BR/>The attack in India was obviously the will of God, and what mortal man or woman can change the will of God?Ymarsakarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11246906722493964175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-44639946828881758002008-12-10T22:49:00.000-08:002008-12-10T22:49:00.000-08:00Thanks Debbie,Glad you liked it.I had always hoped...Thanks Debbie,<BR/>Glad you liked it.<BR/><BR/>I had always hoped - at least here in America- that Musliums like Zudhi Jasser, Irshad Manji, Wafa Sultan and others would ultimately win out. Unfortunately they haven't, and that's due in no small measure to the tolerance and encouragement given by the current occupant of the White House to the Saudis and their wahabi takeover of America's mosques and madrassahs and Saudi and UAE funded front groups like CAIR and MPAC.<BR/><BR/>One of the most patriotic Americans I know is an ex-Marine colonel of Turkish extraction who's a devout Muslim but no longer prays at mosque for precisely that reason.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, I'm not sure Islam is reformable at this point without a major and total defeat of the ideology (and nations)behind jihad.<BR/><BR/>At that point, Muslims will insist on changing things themselves...or not, but that will be their choice to make.<BR/><BR/>For now, the West gas to make sure to protect itself and see to it that the jihadis are not in a position to act out their 'issues'.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>ffFreedom Fighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-82838060371130344832008-12-10T17:59:00.000-08:002008-12-10T17:59:00.000-08:00You say: "I have always gone out of my way in the...You say: "I have always gone out of my way in these pages to emphasize that the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful in nature and that a moderate Islam that could coexist peacefully with non-Muslims in a free society was possible.<BR/><BR/>It's taken a while, but I no longer subscribe to that point of view, at least given the present circumstances.Frankly, it's no longer relevant. ..and for me to have to write this was extraordinarilly difficult, simply because I ultimately always hoped for better."<BR/><BR/>I reached that place a few years ago. It took some hard soul-searching on my part, but I believe Islam would have to be completely revamped if (and that's a big if) it could ever be peaceful and live together with other religions.<BR/><BR/>Ann Coulter's remark about converting them to Christianity has some merit. Her point was that Islam as it is cannot live in peace with the rest of the world.<BR/><BR/>All religions seek to gain converts, but no other religion DEMANDS conversion.<BR/><BR/>Excellent article.<BR/><BR/>I sent you a trackback but see it didn't arrive. TypePad sucks.<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Debbie Hamilton<BR/><A HREF="http://www.righttruth.typepad.com" REL="nofollow">Right Truth</A>Right Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18274108313586611205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-49108438866626027142008-12-08T21:49:00.000-08:002008-12-08T21:49:00.000-08:00Ummm, ye-eah...You sound exactly like one of the p...Ummm, ye-eah...You sound exactly like one of the peaceful members of the Religion of Peace I was talking about.<BR/><BR/>The idea that some of Mumbai's local Muslims collaborated with the jihadis from Pakistan seems to be pretty much agreed upon by India's security services. But hey, they don't probably know anything about India's Muslim fifth column either, right? <BR/><BR/>From the e-mails I get, I have a feeling that a lot of Indians are questioning the harmony of some of India's muslims just now...and I do find it interesting that in between cussing me out, you have pretty much nothing to say in condemnation of these horrendous attacks or what they signify. AND THAT SPEAKS PRETTY LOUDLY, to be honest.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>ffFreedom Fighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-77977639146742211802008-12-08T21:18:00.000-08:002008-12-08T21:18:00.000-08:00abe haraamzaade what do u know about the muslims o...abe haraamzaade what do u know about the muslims of india.... zilch... ur brain is filled with horse shit... u seem to be one of those bastard foreign reporters who know zero but write as if they are an authority on the subject... bastards like u will never be able to break india's harmony...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-21066237688521506042008-12-06T04:08:00.000-08:002008-12-06T04:08:00.000-08:00(different anonymous) I agree with you 100%, par...(different anonymous) I agree with you 100%, particularly your quotes, 'radical Islam is already alive and well inside the gates', & our need 'to have to put the fear of G-d into them to the point where they never even remotely consider attacking the West again in any form'. I'm a pessimist, though, like the other anonymous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-36347780855646770302008-12-05T10:23:00.000-08:002008-12-05T10:23:00.000-08:00Good luck on fighting jihad with the PC government...Good luck on fighting jihad with the PC government we have in Washington these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com