tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post7154895476310017954..comments2024-02-29T02:10:56.878-08:00Comments on J O S H U A P U N D I T: Obama Alienates Canada And Mexico At Summit - And It's Going To Cost Us A Lot Of MoneyFreedom Fighterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-17915039262196433142012-04-09T20:14:47.316-07:002012-04-09T20:14:47.316-07:00While I think you may be spot on about the prices ...While I think you may be spot on about the prices of drugs going up when the borders are secured, at least initially, this usually happens when the supply of any thing that is in demand goes down. I respectfully disagree with the notion that secure borders will not significantly reduce the drug trade. <br /><br />If the borders are secured, then the supply for new addicts and the supply for existing addicts will be decreased. Also, border patrol agents and military personnel need to have the latitude to actually do their jobs. As it is right now, if they actually apprehend someone or try to secure the borders, they are likely to get prosecuted!!<br /><br />Securing the borders will cut out the supply. When trying to solve a problem, the first thing to do is cut off the supply. This needs to be followed up by extensive anti-drug education programs. This combination should solve the problem within a few years. <br /><br />This can work even better if Mexico helps on their side by securing their side of the border as well. Good fences make good neighbors. Does Mexico wish to be a good neighbor?<br /><br />Of course any time America makes any feelbe efforts to talk abuut securing the borders, Mexico complains bitterly. Securing the borders would do more to solve the illicit drug problem than any thing we are currently doing?<br /><br />Is the Mexican government serious about solving this problem? Is the American government serious about solving this problem? Sadly I'd say no.<br /><br />At least in the case of the American government, tney have an exucse for their approach. Any attempt to secure the borders especially the Southern one would result result in almost intanst and devestating economic sanctions by the world against the US. Mexico has no such excuse. Apparently its more important to them to be able to flood the US with millions of illegals rather than protect their citizens from the drug gangs. Truly disgraceful. <br /><br />Finally, whose idea was it to supply ANY support to the Zetas? Knowing Mexico is hopelessly corrupt should have clued someone into what a bad idea that would be. Of course is America much better in the corruption department? Sadly I'd say no. In fact, it might be even worse!!B.Posternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-50323121557150492682012-04-09T14:50:33.833-07:002012-04-09T14:50:33.833-07:00Ultimately it does not really matter whether the U...Ultimately it does not really matter whether the US recognizes the ICC or not. The Mexican government could get a conviction in absentia or whatever the legal term is. Then any guilty US officials could be siezed where ever they may be. The symbolic value of this situation would be tremendous. This could be used to extract tough punitive measures agains the US.<br /><br />You are probably correct a complete investigation of this likely would result in the impeachment of Mr. Holder and perhaps others. In fact, I would not be surprised if it reaches into the highest levels of the Mexican government as well. As stated previously, your plans don't work out, blame the gringos to the north. It costs you nothing and the political benefits are awesome!!<br /><br />The meida typically overestimates the capabilities of US law enforcement, military, and intellegence capabilities. This makes them much easier to vilify. Also, these groups themselves tend to over state their capabilities. It makes it easier to justify their funding. <br /><br />While the US likely did supply some training and support to the Zetas, this is not in dispute, their level of competence and expertise far surpasses that of any American counterparts who would train them. As such, it is immaterial to them but could be devestating to us. We've supplied knowledge of our tactics and weapons to an entity that is for all intents and purposes an enemy. Is this wise? I think not. Also, did our people get access to some of the tactical expertise possessed by the Zetas. Again, somehow I think not. Totally incompentent boobs, all of them.B.Posternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-26909732069653451602012-04-09T11:16:49.387-07:002012-04-09T11:16:49.387-07:00Anonymous, the US does not recognize the ICC's...<b>Anonymous,</b> the US does not recognize the ICC's jurisdiction - along with a number of other countries. <br /><br />A thorough investigation of F&F would undoubtedly result in the impeachment of AG Eric Holder, and might even go further up the tree since I doubt this was his idea alone. I doubt it's going to happen, not while President Obama is in office.<br /><br />Securing the borders.. I agree it's an important national security objective. But I doubt it will significantly affect the drug trafficking. It merely means the price will go up and the financial rewards will attract even more smugglers.<br /><br /><b> Poster,</b> I know your frequently expressed opinion is that the U.S. Military, Law enforcement and security apparatus are totally incompetent and far surpassed by other countries, and I've tried to point out from time to time exactly why I think you're mistaken. <br /><br />But do some research,and you'll find out the Zetas were U.S. trained.<br /><br />Regards,<br />RobRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13332213651195340500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-59055934250631328722012-04-09T09:53:11.330-07:002012-04-09T09:53:11.330-07:00The Zetas are far to competent and efficient to ha...The Zetas are far to competent and efficient to have been trained by the Americans. While they may have been able to incorporate certain things from the Americans, their tactics and skills with weapons are far superior to any thing America is capable of. If knowledge was shared, hopefully our people gained access to some of their tactical expertise. Somehow I doubt that happened. <br /><br /><br />I've asked this before in relation to support supplied to Islmaic terrorist groups. The same thing applies here. Is it wise to supply material support and treasure to an adversary in hopes they won't be or become an adversary? I think not. <br /><br />In the case of the Zetas, it seems very unlikely the Mexican government did not know about this and it seems even less likely the operation would have been implemented without their consent and approval. The same thing with fast and furious. It seems unlikely this operation would have been unknown at the highest levels of the Mexican government. As infiltrated as the US government is with sympathizers of Mexico positions, it stretches credibility to the breaking point to think they would not have known about this from the beginning. Furthermore they could have used their allies in the media to bring attention to this and get it stopped before it even got started if they did not approve. <br /><br />Given these facts, I think they knew about it from the start, were consulted with, oversaw, and approved the whole thing. When the whole thing fell apart, it made perfect political sense to blame the gringos. <br /><br />Does Mexico really want this investigation into this that needs to happen? Very likely not. They don't want it revealed they were in this whole evil thing up to their necks!! Nevertheless we do need to investigate this, find out what happened, how it happened, and hold the guilty accountable to the fullest extent of the law. This is the right thing to do and furthermore it may help to head off a UN or ICC investigation which would be an absolute nightmare for us. There's very few things worse than kangaroo courts or witch hunts and that is precisely what a UN or ICC investigation would be.B.Posternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-8173557807433223272012-04-07T10:47:23.822-07:002012-04-07T10:47:23.822-07:00I've already said what Mexico needs to do abou...I've already said what Mexico needs to do about "fast and furious." If the US does not investigate this fairly and hold the appropiate people accountable, Mexico should take this to international venues such as the ICC and the UN. It is vitally important that the US conduct this investigation properly and hold the appropiate people accountable. If this goes to the ICC or the UN general assembly, it would be an absolute nightmare for us. <br /><br />While the US may not honor the ICC, getting a conviction against American officials in this venue would not be very difficult. They hate us any way. Also, the UN general assembly will vote against us out of spite. If Mexico wants to go to the UN Security council, getting a 4-1 vote against America wouold likely not be a problem. It would all send a deeply symbolic message and might even result in crippling economic sanctions placed on us. <br /><br />To the American government officals, I'd say its vitally important we get this right so we can avoid all of this. <br /><br />Now with that said, Mexico has been violating America's soverignty for years. Should it come as any surprise that they had they had theirs violated. In other words, they've blantantly disrespected us and it should come as no surprise that they reaped a whirlwind here. This does NOT make the actions of the US government in this area right, however. <br /><br />If the borders are secured between our two countries, this largely solves the problem of the drug trade, however, any time the US makes even feeble noises about securing its borders the Mexican government cries foul. Could it be that the Mexican government likes the money they are getting to much from the drug trade? I think this is a real possibilty.<br /><br />The axiom that good fences make good neighbors is largely spot on. By securing our borders we can go along way to improving the relations between both countries and this would go along way to placing them on equal footing. <br /><br />You are correct to point out the Mexican government is corrupt. The US government is also corrupt. Unfortunately the people of our two great countries are caught in the middle. <br /><br />America needs to do its part by doing the following: 1.) make sure fast and furious is thoroughly investigated and that the guilty are dealt with to the fullest extent of the law possible. I'm not opposed to having Mexican officials assist with the investigation, however, its understandable why neither country trusts the other but clear groud rules would need to be laid out for both sides in such an event and the American side would need some way to enforce their end. If things don't go right, Mexican officials can and will go to the media and perhaps other international bodies. American officials don't have this option. 2.)Secure our borders. This should put a huge dent in the drug trade. Doubly so, if Mexico secures their side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-55972595466276461552012-04-05T22:24:45.019-07:002012-04-05T22:24:45.019-07:00The Mexicans would say that it's the American ...The Mexicans would say that it's the American appetite for illegal drugs that's responsible, Anonymous.<br /><br />Also, remember that a lot of these cartels like the Zetas were armed and trained by the U.S...and simply went where the money was and switched sides.<br /><br />Mexico is indeed an extremely corrupt country, but let's just say these two little factors I mentioned haven't helped the situation one bit.<br /><br />To Calderon's credit, he's at least made a decent try at fighting the cartels. Fast and Furious made him look like an absolute idiot for working with Obama and trusting the Gringos.<br /><br />It's not just numbers in politics, but perception.<br /><br />Regards,<br />RobRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13332213651195340500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-42780403179509380172012-04-05T17:47:23.312-07:002012-04-05T17:47:23.312-07:00I cannot disagree with anything you said but I do ...I cannot disagree with anything you said but I do disagree with the Mexican president. He certainly has a right to be pissed about fast and furious but those 200 murders are les then 1% of the drug related murders they had last year. The Mexican government is bought by the drug cartels so they will turn a blind eye on their drug manufacture and sales. So who is at fault for those murders not related to fast and furious???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-38270933690317300072012-04-05T17:02:26.926-07:002012-04-05T17:02:26.926-07:00Here is another article from the Stewart Blog...po...Here is another article from the Stewart Blog...posted to Faultline with a brief lead-in.<br /><br />http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=6960732812801813184#editor/target=post;postID=6152219539805493452<br /><br />author: Chip Stewart<br />gastewart3@gmail.comΚορνήλιοςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09205253895972630186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-50155465988551154142012-04-05T12:22:14.646-07:002012-04-05T12:22:14.646-07:00Thank you Mr. Racist
Obama for destroying my coun...Thank you Mr. Racist <br />Obama for destroying my country...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com