tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post8359314638158735257..comments2024-02-29T02:10:56.878-08:00Comments on J O S H U A P U N D I T: A Partisan Divide On Israel?Freedom Fighterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13649470110087808596noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-32105066173158512162010-07-05T06:31:12.119-07:002010-07-05T06:31:12.119-07:00Zogby, I think, gained his fame for his prediction...Zogby, I think, gained his fame for his prediction of the Republican tide in 1994. I think he's been riding that wave for quite some time. (It's also why he has been identified as "conservative.")<br /><br />Of course I heard him interviewed on Election day 2004 when he assured everyone that Kerry was going to be swept into office on an unprecedented (and largely undetected) wave of younger voters.<br /><br />You wrote:<br /><i>It's a old joke that no good deed goes unpunished, but there is nothing that garners resentment in some people quite like the feeling that your accomplishments and ambitions were only realized with the help of someone else.</i><br /><br />You reminded me of an observation that <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/20/opinion/black-demagogues-and-pseudo-scholars.html?scp=3&sq=&st=nyt&pagewanted=all" rel="nofollow">Henry Louis Gates recounted nearly 20 years ago</a>.<br /><br /><i>The strategy of these apostles of hate, I believe, is best understood as ethnic isolationism -- they know that the more isolated black America becomes, the greater their power. And what's the most efficient way to begin to sever black America from its allies? Bash the Jews, these demagogues apparently calculate, and you're halfway there. <br /><br />I myself think that the great French aphorist Rochefoucault put his finger on something germane when he observed, "We can rarely bring ourselves to forgive those who have helped us." For sometimes it seems that the trajectory of black-Jewish relations is a protracted enactment of Rochefoucault's paradox. </i><br /><br />(For a long time I gave Gates a lot of latitude - especially with respect to Cornel West - on the strength of that op-ed.)Soccer Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16142724823098073038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-29149162994971964852010-07-03T09:02:03.983-07:002010-07-03T09:02:03.983-07:00The Democratic Party brand name was so mesmerising...The Democratic Party brand name was so mesmerising, so hypnotic, simpliciter, that your parents couldn't vote for my Ford ? ... sigh, tell it not in Gath ... even though they realised that the Dem candidate was as false as Cressid ? ( I know : too much classical reading lately. ) xxxxxx 2 worst pres campaigns run by major parties during my lifetime : 1972 McGovern & 1992 Bush, Sr : both complete fools with feeble-minded campaign staff. ( Some old-timers might suggest the Goldwater campaign, 1964 ; however, that was a suicide run, as it followed Nov 1963 by less than a year. ) -- dragon/dinosaurAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16816866.post-79322014071038822622010-07-03T06:10:37.742-07:002010-07-03T06:10:37.742-07:00The irony I think is that the one's in the dem...The irony I think is that the one's in the democratic party who seem to be leaving Israel behind are the Jews like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. What she wants other than to be either a Senator oe day or the Speaker of teh House is beyond me, but caring for Israel is not on her agenda. They are political hacks pure and simple.<br /><br />Zogby is nothing. He wants o use his polling information as you said to present his agenda which is virulently anti-Semitic and always has been, as has his brother's agenda.<br /><br />Jews in this country have been faced with this choice of Anti-semitic democratic party or their own future before and they blinked. The idea that because you don't pull the lever for a democrat means you don't pull a lever is quite frankly a cop-out (with all due respect to your parents).Why they will not blink this time is beyond me? <br /><br />Yet according to Rasmussen I believe only 44% of the Jews who voted for Obama are still behind him...yippee.Maybe Jews aren't so stoopid afterall? <br /><br />The problem as stated before is that the Jewish leaders in this country have confused leftist poltiics with Judaism and Jewish history and they continue to confuse it as they teach their children. The problem becomes that parents of our generation for the most part don't even know the truth, so they can't teach their children. The problem I see is that so many of them don't even care.independent patriothttp://libertysspirit.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com