Showing posts with label Torture. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Torture. Show all posts

Tuesday, December 09, 2014

The Real Torture Is The Lies,Selective Amnesia And Scramble For Political Cover

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The Democrat-dominated Senate Intelligence committee finally made public its report on the CIA’s interrogation policy during the Bush years. There was no credible reason to make this report public,since the Justice Department has already investigated this not once but twice and failed to file any charges.

These incidents of enhanced interrogation - which hardly constitute torture in any case,given the circumstances - occurred over a decade ago. Members of America's security establishment, including Democrats Leon Panetta and former CIA Director George Tenet were emphatic in their opposition to this report being released publicly because of the danger to national security. Releasing this and allowing the Professional Left and the media to go crazy has provided what amounts to a primer for jihadis in what to expect from American interrogators and what to claim was done to them in the future. It intimidates those men charged with interrogating known terrorists and makes them less effective and it endangers personnel serving overseas as well as to American prisoners in and the hands of Islamic State and elsewhere. As Colonel Ralph Peters and others put it, it amounted to aid and comfort to America's enemies..or would if we were actually in a declared war.

So why release this publicly now? Simple, really. It accomplishes three things. First it provides political cover for Democrats who were fully briefed about the enhanced interrogation techniques at the time and who now claim they knew nothing, particularly Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, wielding the gavel for the last time and Senator Jay D. Rockefeller IV from West Virginia who is now leaving the senate. The second reason is to afvance the narrative beloved by the Left, that America is always guilty. And that leads to the third reason, score settling with the CIA, and crippling it so that it no longer can function. The rest of the Democrats on the committee are either lame ducks on their way out who no longer care or hard edged members of the Left like Ron Wyden and Barbara Mikulski, who have always hated things like the CIA as a matter of principle.

Senator Rockefeller has been known to try this sort of thing before, and as it happens, there's a clear record he was fully briefed on all of this at the time. Senator Feinstein's record of selective memory on this is almost as laughable as her California colleague Nancy Pelosi's.

Yes, they knew, and just picked a convenient time to drop the bomb.

None of the Republicans on the committee participated in this dangerous nonsense and exercise in political thuggery,not even Susan Collins. This committee report was exclusively a Democrat project.

NBC's chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel was fairly blunt about this, to the point where I'm surprised it got on the air:

I think this is really about changing the narrative of American history. This process went on, it was a brutal process. It was legal at the time, whether it should have been legal or not, I think, is highly debatable. It was legal at the time. The CIA was asked to do it. The CIA was passing on its intelligence to the President. So everyone in the world knew what was going on, including by the way, the Senate, which is now pretending to be a bit of a babe in the woods. They knew what was going on at the time and in many cases were quite happy with the intelligence they were getting.

I think this is about rewriting the narrative of history. When we look back, how are we going to remember the period? Are we going to remember a period in which the rogue evil CIA was beating people, in some cases to death, and the politicians didn't know about it? Or are we going to look back and say the politicians were plenty aware of this, the CIA beat people to death, and then Senate tried to come out and say, "Well, you know, we didn't know anything about it," and trying to wash their hands of the situation? And to be honest, I think it's a little bit of the latter.


Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., a 31-year CIA veteran who ran the program reiterated this in an outspoken editorial today in the Washington Post. Not only was congress fully briefed, but they actually urged the Agency to do whatever it took to defeat al-Qaeda in the days after 9/11.

Like most essentially disloyal and self serving politicos, they were more than willing for far braver men and women to do what was needed to protect them..just as they are now willing to disparage their efforts and put the lives of others at risk for their own personal gain and false narrative.

Not only that,but a bi-partisan group of former CIA heads and intelligence personnel, in anticipation of this nonsense have actually put together a response and a website to give a true picture of what actually went on, and to rebut the more egregious of the report's accusations.

The allegations themselves? A lot of them are second and third hand accounts of supposed misdeeds that remind me a lot of the sort of 'evidence' used in failed attempts to try to court martial and imprison the Camp Pendleton 8 or those three Navy Seals who performed a hazardous mission to capture the terrorist in charge of murdering four Americans in Falluja. But briefly, what the media frenzy is about here is that in order to save American lives, our CIA interrogators and others (of course, the report only mentions and attacks the CIA) water boarded known terrorists, kept them in stress positions for long periods of time, subjected them to sleep deprivation, and at times allegedly threatened their loved ones to induce them to give intelligence on what were imminent threats to American lives.

Oh, the humanity!

I've actually explored the subject of torture before, back when Attorney General Eric Holder released the so-called 'torture memos' which came to nothing except to seriously lower the morale and efficiency of the men tasked with interrogating America's enemies and to inform al-Qaeda and other jihadis about our interrogation techniques and the limits placed on our interrogators:

The problem with most physical torture is that it can be incredibly inefficient much of the time. Given an individual with a sufficiently strong will, it can take hours, days, months or even years to accomplish the desired end.

Combining the administration of drugs like sodium penathol, baradanga, and sodium amytal with a skilled interrogator is normally quicker, more efficient and easier on the basement janitorial crew afterwards. It also eliminates the nasty problem of false confessions and information that sometimes tends to go with the territory when you get your answers by using an electric drill on somebody's hands. However, there's no doubt that waterboarding and other harsh interrogation techniques can work quite well, especially when a threat is imminent and time is of the essence. And they're useful tools as psychological threats to promote cooperation, even if the techniques themselves aren't used.


I'll even go a step further and let you know that if I thought a jihadi had knowledge of an imminent attack (which turned out to be the case with Khalid Sheik Mohammed and probably with others)and I was in a position to make the call, I'd have done exactly the same thing and perhaps even gone a bit further. American lives matter, to use a slightly different version of a popular slogan out there these days.

When I wrote that five years ago, I suggested that what was really needed was a covert, clear policy that could be invoked in situations when information is needed quickly and American lives are at stake as well as suggesting a few other non-violent but effective psychological techniques that could be used in such cases.

Of course, this being the era of Obama, nothing like that has even been considered, let alone implemented.

For now, this sordid attempt at revisionism and political kabuki theater will of course be front page news,pushed by the usual suspects. Of course, none of those usual suspects is going to blame these senators and their accomplices - I can think of no more appropriate word - when and if we get hit with a major terrorist strike in the future.

Nor will they want anyone to make the connection that it happened because we missed out on operational intelligence because our CIA was handcuffed in how it gathered information, or because our interrogators were too intimidated to question jihadis in custody with sufficient vigor to save American lives.

Instead, they'll be looking to blame someone else. Anybody else.

UPDATE: The Committee's Republicans were unanimous is disputing this report's findings. In fact, they have filed a minority rebuttal disputing it in detail.

Tuesday, June 04, 2013

The Hypocrisy Of Obama And The EU's Concern For Human Rights

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Both President Obama and the EU makes a huge amount of noise about human rights in the Middle East, especially when it happens to concern the most far fetched complaints against Israel, the only state in the region that actually operates under the western ideal of equal rule of law for all its citizens.

The primary human rights organization in the Arab Occupied areas of Judea and Samaria is the Palestinian Independent Commission For Human Rights(ICHR).

The ICHR recently published its own report citing the egregious human rights violations in both Gaza and the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas' little reichlet.

During 2012, 11 of the Arabs whom identify themselves as Palestinians died in custody while rotting in jail in PA and Hamas custody. There were 306 complaints about torture. more than half of which came from Palestinians who had been detained or imprisoned by Abbas's PA security forces in Judea and Samaria.

Journalists who are even remotely critical of Abbas' regime have been especially targeted, and there continue to be cases of torture and even extra judicial executions for the crime of 'collaborating with Israel'. Selling land to a Jew (and the statute says 'Jew' not 'Israeli')  is a capital crime in the Palestinian Authority.

Of great interest is the reaction to this of the Obama Administration and the European Union, who fund the Palestinian Authority as well as providing substantial funds for Hamas in the guise of 'humanitarian aid'.

The Obama Administration has had no reaction at all to the report and completely ignored it.The EU missions in the region? They issued a statement 'expressing concern' but were happy with a vague pro forma statement by unelected PA President Mahmoud Abbas condemning torture in general as a “relevant and unambiguous response” and merely said “The EU will continue to promote support for human rights by all in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, in particular through its regular dialogue with the Israeli authorities and the Palestinian Authority as well as support to Palestinian institutions and civil society.”

Mustn't leave a mention of those Israelis out, even though the report by the ICHR only talks about abuses by the PA and Hamas. Meanwhile, the EU response avoided referring to any of the cases documented in the ICHR report or saying anything about the report's accusations that Abbas's security forces are continuing to crack down on journalists and academics and ignore court rulings.

Instead, the EU merely gave Abbas a slap on the back and an 'attaboy' even though the torture of Arabs in PA and Hamas custody is continuing, and basic freedoms continue to be ignored.

The EU and the Obama Administration have been known to go into hysterics over Jews merely building houses in already establish communities in Jerusalem,Judea and Samaria,and one can only imagine what their response would be to documented cases of Israel ignoring Israeli court rulings, let alone torture of Arabs by the IDF. Yet their response to the PA and Hamas is essentially to ignore serious cases of human rights violations altogether while winking and saying 'boys will be boys'.

And of course, to keep the millions of dollars and euros in jizyah coming in to fund the PA and Hamas.

The EU's stance is easy to understand. Supporting 'Palestine' financially and politically and bashing Israel is a way of trying to calm those restless Arab populations they imported into their countries, although the Brits, the French and the Swedes might be starting to get a clue that buying peace for themselves isn't as easy as all that. Bullies who are successful always want more concessions. And more after that.

In President Obama's case, his stance has been consistent. He sees Israel as a 'problem' rather than an ally, was infected early on with the Leftist view of 'Palestine' and thinks that if America cozies up to Islamists and creates 'daylight' (his words, not mine) between Israel and the U.S., any problems America has with Islam and the Muslim world will magically disappear.And his administration is filled with like minded people.

What we have here is an interesting spectacle. The EU and President Obama are both known for their pious rhetoric on human rights. democracy and freedom. Yet they're willing look the other way  to fund,  aid and abet the creation of a state that is quite open about its intention to practice apartheid,  persecutes Christians and has sharia as the basis for its laws, supports terrorism, commits  serial human rights abuses,  and will be ruled by an unelected Arab dictator whose term expired four years ago.

Of course, in the case of both President Obama and the EU, there's another likely factor.

One of the classic definitions of racism and anti-semitism is when you create special rules and restrictions that apply to one select group of people and no one else.

You take it from there.

Sunday, February 03, 2013

SecDef Panetta Admits Enhanced Interrogation Works, Led Us To Bin-Laden



Well, well.

Remember all of the noise from Democrats about waterboarding being torture? Remember how President Obama released confidential memos after the entire intelligence community begged him not to,because it would tell our enemies exactly the techniques we'd be using to interrogate them? Remember how Attorney General Eric Holder and the president were going to prosecute the CIA interrogators involved and the government attorneys who wrote legal opinions for the Bush Administration used to authorize waterboarding and enhanced interrogation techniques?

Remember how President Obama, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and a slew of other Democrats used this issue to play partisan politics and the media amplified it?

Today on NBC's Meet The Press, ex-SecDef Leon Panetta admitted that those techniques provided the intelligence that led the U.S. to Osama bin-Laden.

(h/t, Jim at Gateway)

Of course Panetta was quick to try to qualify it with a quick remark that 'we worked out most of it without resorting to those techniques', but he admitted that waterboarding and enhanced interrogation got the results we needed. And it's not the first time he's said it.

This is the same man who, at his 2009 CIA confirmation hearing conformation hearings called waterboarding "torture" and said it was something he would never use. Until he needed to, I suppose.

These same people demonized President Bush for making the same decision, one that, according to then Vice President Cheney, prevented subsequent al-Qaeda attacks and saved American lives. After all the obscene noise from the Left, no one has ever provided any evidence whatsoever that Cheney was wrong.

And of course, you're never going to hear Panetta, Mrs.Clinton or the president admit they were badly mistaken.

In other remarks in today's interview, Panetta touted Chuck Hagel's appointment as the new Secretary of defense, saying he had no doubt Hagel was 'ready to take over his job.'

If by that he meant being a clueless sycophant with no understanding or appreciation of national defense who would cheerfully carry out the orders for the hollowing out of America's military, Panetta might be right.

Wednesday, June 15, 2011

A Harrowing Interview With A Victim of Regime Rape And Torture In Iran





And this is the regime the Obama Administration wants to 'engage with', and is allowing to acquire nuclear weapons.

(Hat tip, The Elder)


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Tuesday, February 02, 2010

No Action Against Bush Era Attorneys For Legal Advice On Terrorism

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One giant sand castle, that's what the Obama Administration is - and a pretty poorly built one at that. And every so often, another wave crashes down on it and washes some of the bogus structure away.

Remember how Obama and the Democrats campaigned on how the evil BushHitler had tortured those poor jihadis, how illegal it was and how they were going to hold the Bush Administration to account?

Remember how Obama said that regardless, he wasn't going to prosecute any Bush Administration officials for anything that had happened before?

And remember how thrilled the Angry Left was when Prez Zero announced a switcheroo and had his attorney general Eric Holder announce that, yes indeed, the were going to prosecute Bush era lawyers after all. Remember how Obama released those infamous 'torture memos' no matter how much damage it did to our counter-terrorism efforts or America's image overseas?

Well whaddya know - Obama's changed his mind again:

We’ve been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for news to come down from the Justice Department on what might become of John Yoo and Jay Bybee, the two Bush administration lawyers largely responsible for authoring the famous torture memos.

Well, we finally have word. And it appears that the DOJ will largely let the pair go with little more than a slap on the wrist. Click here for the story from Newsweek, which broke the news; here for a followup from over the weekend from the Washington Post. (Hat tip: Nuts & Boalts)

According to a forthcoming ethics report issued by the DOJ’s ethics-watchdog unit, the Office of Professional Responsibility, Yoo and Bybee will be wrist-slapped for exercising poor judgment but will not be referred to authorities for possible sanctions.

The news represents a bit of a reversal from what the DOJ had initially concluded, it seems. A draft report prepared at the end of the Bush years recommended that Yoo, now a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley, and Bybee, now a federal appeals court judge in Nevada, be referred to state disciplinary authorities for sanctions that could have included the revocation of their licenses to practice.

But then-Attorney General Michael Mukasey and Deputy Attorney General Mark Filip blasted the analysis in the draft and sent it back to the ethics office for more work. Current AG Eric Holder assigned the project to his new leader of the professional responsibility office, veteran D.C. prosecutor Mary Patrice Brown. Brown took months to carefully review and revise the lengthy report.

Ultimately, however, it seems the decision to stop short of disciplinary recommendations for Yoo and Bybee fell to David Margolis, who has spent more than three decades at the center of some of the most sensitive issues at the Justice Department.

As Newsweek points out, handling the case is really a no-winner for Holder. Had he pushed for disciplinary actions against Bybee, Yoo and a third former Bush administration lawyer, Steven Bradbury, it clearly would have been seen as a political move. But this news is almost sure to anger many on the left.



This is classic. First, Zero says he's taking the high road while waving the Bush 'torture' flag, then he takes the banana republic step of attempting to prosecute the opposition once he gets in, and totally destroys our counter terrorism setup, not to mention the morale of the people actually charged with interrogating jihadis.

And then he just abandons it.

For the record, it isn't only the lawyers. No CIA officials at all have been brought up on charges in connection with any enhanced interrogation techniques...maybe, just maybe because - wait for it - they were actually legal,hmmm?

After all the garbage about Bush supposedly trashing American values and breaking the law, the Democrats have absolutely nothing to show for it in any concrete legal sense. Nothing.Nada. Nichevo.

Now, I wonder...was the whole crusade that Obama and the Democrats waged against the Bush Administration's successful efforts to defend the country and avoid another terrorist attack just a political ploy to massage their base and use as a talking point to win elections, no matter what?

Nah....couldn't be. I mean, to do something like that in wartime just for partisan politics would be downright unpatriotic.

Wouldn't it?








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Monday, February 11, 2008

Berkeley Versus The Marines



You'll remember that I previously wrote about how Code Pink and the City Council of Berkely, California are waging war on the local Marine recruiting office and illegally interfering with them.

Here you have a chance to see exactly what these foul people are doing...as the Berkeley cops explain to a local resident `we're trying to be neutral.'

In response to action by Republican Senator Jim Demint who wants to strip Berkeley of over $2 million dollars in Federal funds for disobeying US law, the city has backed away slightly, with Berkeley's Mayor, Tom Bates now acknowledging that the city `went to far' in passing a resolution calling for the Marines to leave and declaring them uninvited and unwelcome intruders, and in allowing the odious Code Pink special parking spaces and sound permits and encouraging them to interfere with the Marine recruiter's rights and duties.

I'm amazed at the restraint the Marines are showing, and as far as I'm concerned every one of these people ought to be arrested for sedition - including the mayor and the Council members.

Wednesday, February 06, 2008

Dedicated To The City Council Of Berkeley, California


The City Council of Berkeley, California recently disgraced itself (I can think of no other more appropriate word) by issuing a diktat in the form of a city council resolution attacking the local US Marine corps recruiters, saying that they were unwelcome in Berkeley and that if they chose to stay they will "do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

The city council also voted 8-1 to allow the odious Code Pink, famous for taunting wounded soldiers at Walter Reed and giving money to our enemies in wartime with a special designated parking space in front of the recruiting office, with encouragement to Code Pink to "impede" Marine recruitment.

That 'encouragement' has led to members of the group chaining themselves to the doors of the recruiting office and deliberately interfering with the Marine's lawful duty in direct violation of federal law.

For those who wish more detail on this story, a number of my blogpals have excellent pieces on it and I recommend you check out what Ms. Bookworm, Greg at Rhymes With Right or Edwonk have to say about it.

For my part, I just thought I'd share an old favorite poem of mine with you - and dedicate to the members of the Berkeley City council and the harridans at Code Pink who besmirch our beloved Republic with their presence:

TOMMY

I went into a public-’ouse to get a pint o’beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die, I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:

O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”; But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins,'’ when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s “Thank you, Mr. Atkins,'’ when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-’alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!

For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.

Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.

Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy how’s yer soul?”
But it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll.

We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints:
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;

While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind,”
But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir,” when there’s trouble in the wind,
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir,” when there’s trouble in the wind.

You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.

For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!” But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country,” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
But Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool - you bet that Tommy sees!

-Rudyard Kipling



(`Tommy' is the generic British name for an infantry soldier, similar to `GI Joe' in the US)