Showing posts with label Religion. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Religion. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 22, 2018

Forum: Does Faith In G-d Bring Common Sense?




Every Monday, the WoW! community and our invited guests weigh in at the Watcher's Forum, short takes on a major issue of the day, the culture, or daily living. This week's question: Does Faith In 
G-d Bring Common Sense?

Doug Hagin:Maybe it takes a healthy amount of common sense to have faith in God? Common sense often requires not over-thinking things, and accepting simple truths. many Atheists have that problem it seems. So, does faith bring common sense? Or is it required before faith? Hmmmmm


Patrick O'Hannigan:I do think that faith in G-d brings common sense, and although I haven't heard Dennis Prager's argument for that, he's a man who does his homework. The question reminded me of an old book by Catholic apologist Frank Sheed. After 50 years of streetcorner preaching (among other endeavors), he wrote "Theology and Sanity," which was first published in 1946, and is luckily still in print. If I remember his thesis correctly, Sheed said that it took sanity (for our purposes here, common sense) to recognize a higher power.

Mainline Christian theology teaches that the Holy Spirit is one of three divine persons in the trinity that is G-d, and ascribes to that generous personage (often described as "the love between the Father and the Son") seven gifts. Those gifts (wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord) read like common sense writ large.



Rob Miller: I have to say, I like Laura's approach a great deal as always. Before you can say whether faith in G-d brings common sense, you need to define what common sense is, n'est pah? Her definition of it as rational thought or right reason is excellent but it seems it works only so far. After all, look at what passed for common sense even a short time ago and how that has changed 180 degrees now to the point that many of us might find it ludicrous. How many times have you heard people of a certain political persuasion use the words 'everybody knows' as a serious argument or a means of ridiculing or demeaning others they disagree with? As someone whose name I can't recall once said(Cal Coolidge? Will Rogers?) the thing about common sense is that's it's very uncommon. My point is that common sense is a loaded term that means different things to different people. Just as everybody imagines they have a sense of humor, they also imagine they have common sense, no matter how inane their opinions and actions are. Bookworm's erudite example of 'Gaia Worship' in our universities is a fine example of how 'common sense' ain't what it's cracked up to be.

So in trying to peel this particular orange, my first thought is that belief in G-d can give you a kind of common sense, but that depends on how you approach it. Some hideous things have been done and continue to be done in the name of faith. The adherents of belief systems that that tolerate and even promote such behavior as showing 'faith' certainly consider what they're doing to be common sense. The proof that it isn't common sense can be seen in the retribution and end results of such behavior. There are numerous examples.

On the other hand, if you have faith in G-d and it means that you adopt a moral code that demands you respect and attempt to act with decency towards all people and even the animals G-d created, not just the members of your particular denomination, that is very different. If you also acquire a desire to live in accordance with His Divine Plan and do so to the best of your ability out of respect and gratitude for His blessings, then I'd say you're truly on the way to...yes,right reason and common sense! But the moral code I spoke of is imperative. It gives us a roadmap towards successful and happy living, which of course, is the ultimate in common sense, yeah?


Bookworm Room:What an interesting question. I'll try to avoid simply repeating Dennis Prager, whose marvelous exegesis of Exodus I just read.

The Bible spells out an ordered world, with a single ordered intelligence behind it. This differs radically from all other faiths (at least the ones of which I'm aware), which are predicated on chaos. Think of the Greek, Roman, Druid, Mesopotamian, and Egyptian pantheons, all of which have irascible, child-like, selfish, divine beings randomly creating and destroying their way across the universe. Likewise, all animist faiths are predicated upon assigning little chunks of meaning to everything and, again, endowing their many divinities with some of humanity's worst traits, including a striking lack of logic.

The same lack of logic applies to the Gaia worship that now controls so much of the Left. At its worst, it's simply animism and paganism all over again, with an angry Mother Nature continuously punishing humans. In that vein, while I though Disney's Moana was a visually gorgeous movie and Lin-Manuel Miranda's music lovely, it too preached the most primitive, unscientific Gaiaism to children.

Even when Gaia worship purports to be scientifically based, it lacks any common sense or logic. The fact that the whole climate change theory functions only by falsifying data bothers no one, because the data is merely a prop for the faith, in much the same way chicken or goat entrails would be for the pagan seer. Understanding that also explains why, no matter how often the data is proven false, the faithful are undeterred. "Global warming" doesn't work? Then "climate change" will? With that kind of divinity in charge, every thing -- heat, cold, wet, dry, etc. -- proves that the climate change divinity is firmly in control. That kind of thinking is downright hostile to common sense.

Today's hard science also defies logic, at least when it comes to our universe. I believe in evolution and the Big Bang to the extent that hard facts, and intelligent inferences, indicate that they are reasonable theories. I don't believe in them as matters of faith. And most importantly, I don't believe that the Big Bang is truly the beginning, because common sense says that something had to precede the Big Bang. For a long time, though, science insisted, against all common sense, that nothing preceded the Big Bang.

That lack of common sense has become too painful, however, so scientists are now positing all sorts of things such as endlessly repeating universes, black holes reborn, etc. Occam's Razor says that the simplest answer is the best and, ironically enough, common sense seems to say that, given the vastness and complexity of the universe, and given that humans are hardwired for God, may God is the answer.

I've sort of wandered around here, but I do believe that a book (that is, the Bible) with a completely coherent vision about the universe, about man's place in the universe, and about man's relationship to God and to other men, is a necessary foundation for logical thinking -- and common sense, after all, is nothing more than baseline logic. All other theories of the world are predicated upon the random and the magical, both of which are the antithesis of common sense.


David Schuler: G. K. Chesterton said that the first effect of not believing in God is to lose your common sense but I'm not sure that's quite right. He also called tradition "the democracy of the dead". We are not the only people to have lived, indeed, our little lifespans are only a tiny slice of the entirety of human experience. When you don't believe in God you cut yourself off from the vast trove of traditional wisdom, the distillation of that experience.



Laura Rambeau Lee:Let’s define common sense as rational thought; or right reason. Humankind existed thousands of years before the written word allowed us to communicate with one another beyond our families or tribes. If one believes in the Biblical tale of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, they lived in a paradise where everything was provided for them. They wanted for nothing. But they did the one thing G-d told them not to do. Eve was tempted by the serpent (Satan) and she ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Becoming fully aware and conscious she convinced Adam to partake of the fruit so he too would become aware. This consciousness is the spark of divinity we have all been endowed with by our Creator. This was the true beginning of mankind’s relationship with G-d. Whether one believes in the story or not, at some point we became sentient beings. And so in our conscious state we innately understand right from wrong and good from evil. Over time and out of trial and error and experience arose common sense. By the time G-d gave his commandments to Moses and his people they were already understood even if they were not commonly practiced. Common sense is right reason and is how we bring order out of chaos. It is how we structure our lives and our societies. But taking the next step, if we know right from wrong and good from evil, we have to question what makes us choose to be a moral and honest person and live our lives seeking a path of virtue, honesty, and goodness. Of what benefit is it to us? The answer is G-d. Our better selves strive to please our Creator. Perhaps the question should be does common sense bring faith in G-d? I believe it does.



Well, there it is!

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Thursday, January 11, 2018

Dennis Prager Asks...Is There An Afterlife?

Dennis Prager is an author,lecturer and long time popular talk show host based in Los Angeles. One thing I enjoy particularly about him is his ability to go beyond the usual political themes and focus on what I call ultimate issues both onhis show and in his books and lectures. This video, part of his Prager University series asks "Is there an Afterlife?" Definitely worth the five minutes...and please feel free to comment on this one.




My own views on the subject? I certainly think there’s an afterlife, although I think the portrait of it painted by certain denominations is more of a selling point than reality. The afterlife as far as I can say is either something we can’t perceive of, or is different depending on our development in this world. It might also be true that we get the afterlife we believe we will, and as with many things, it might not be anywhere near as pleasant as we imagine!

There’s an old Jewish joke about a Rabbi and a vicious criminal in the afterlife. “Can you imagine this?” said the criminal? “No booze, no sex, boring with nothing to do and the food sucks,not even a decent steak to be had! It’s driving me crazy! You like it here?”

“Why yes,” said the Rabbi. “Milk and honey, the music of the angels praising the Holy One, the chance to study the Holy books and reflect on the most important issues of the soul? Wonderful!”

“I never thought heaven would be like this,” said the thug. “You and I lived such different lives.Why are both of us here in the same place anyway? I can’t figure it out”

“Oh, I can,” said the Rabbi. “You see, I am in heaven. You sir, are in hell.”

Selah.

Friday, September 19, 2014

Cheerleaders, G-d And Civil Disobedience

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Oneida High School in Oneida, Tennessee ended prayers before athletic events because they were afraid of the possibility of lawsuits after pressure from the ACLU and atheist organizations like the Freedom From Religion foundation. So they stopped the usual broadcasting of the Lord's Prayer, otherwise known as Psalm 23 (written by King David) over the PA and substituted a 'moment of silence' instead.The school's decision didn't resonate well with the students and much of the community.

What happened next is simply heartwarming.

The next Friday night football game, the school's cheerleaders in a body used that 'moment of silence' to lead the assembled crowd and the athletes in Psalm 23.

“We need prayer for so many reasons especially in our community now and the troubles we face every day,” said junior Kayla King.

“During the moment of silence all the cheerleaders came together and recited the Lord's Prayer,” King explained.

Cheerleader Captain Ally Meyers said she was "emotional" when she learned that prayers could no longer be recited over the PA system. She said the cheerleaders decided to keep it going on their own, and the whole crowd joined in.

"Our community needs God in it, especially at football games. We pray for the safety of each and every player out there and the cheerleaders and the fans for the drive home," she said.

“In that moment the atmosphere was kind of great because it was nothing but heads bowed, and you heard the Lord's Prayer ring over the football field,” said King.

It must have been quite a moment.

And here's the irony. While the outside groups trying to impose their version of secular tyranny were looking to limit prayer, they had the opposite effect. Instead of one person reading Psalm 23 over the PA, there are now hundreds of people reciting it, and receiving an enhanced spiritual charge from a wonderful act of civil disobedience.

Contrary to what you've heard, there is no legally mandated 'separation' of religion and state, and that entire belief is based on a couple of highly questionable decisions from the ultra-Left Warren Court. But for those of you whom claim there is, here's a test.

If you think reading a Judeo-Christian prayer over a PA system at a non-mandatory school event is 'unconstitutional', do you feel the same way about the adhan, the Muslim call to prayer? That consists of a statement of Islam's superiority and other religion's inferior status broadcast publicly through PA systems at often earsplitting volume where people are forced to listen to it even if they are non-Muslims.

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Funny thing...I haven't heard of any letters to mosques telling them to ditch broadcasting the adhan...not even so much as one threat of an ACLU lawsuit, have you? The muscular secularists at the ACLU or the Freedom From Religion Foundation seem to have plenty of courage when it comes to Judeo-Christian practices and institutions, but somehow they aren't lining up to file suits against mosques that are openly even more intrusive when it comes to broadcasting their religious beliefs in the public sphere.

If you're going to go after Oneida High School and not the mosques and their minarets, that is selective enforcement, a polite name for bigotry. It really is that simple.

Tuesday, October 08, 2013

Rabbi Ovadia Yosef , Zt"L 1920-2013

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Rav Ovadia Yosef, the former chief Sephardi Rabbi of Israel made the passage yesterday at Hadassah Hospital in Jerusalem. He was 93.

Rabbi Yosef was born in Baghdad and emigrated with his family to Palestine Mandat at the age of 4 receiving his ordination at the age of 20.

His main teacher was the famous Rabbi Ezra Attiya.

The story is told about how Rabbi Attiya helped keep the young Ovadia Yosef in Torah studies. When his young student missed several days of study in a row, Rabbi Attiya went to the Youseff home, where the family was living in poverty. The father explained that he ran a small grocery and needed Ovadia's help, since he could not afford to pay a helper.The Rabbi was unable to convince him to let Ovadia return to school.

The next morning, when the father entered his store, he found Rabbi Attiya standing there, wearing a work apron. The Rabbi explained that he had come to the store early that morning when Yosef was opening up, told him that he had found a substitute worker who would work without pay, and sent him back to yeshiva.When Ovadia's father protested against the noted Rabbi working as a grocery helper, Rabbi Attiya replied, "You said that you needed someone to help and could not afford to pay. I am that someone. Your son's learning is more important than my time!"

Ovadia's father relented and allowed him to return to yeshiva.

Ovadia became the Chief Sephardi Rabbi of Israel in 1973, after a long career of incisive and erudite Torah commentary and the establishment of a number of yeshivot with the help of his sons. (He had 11 children). Among his other many accomplishments, he was a strong advocate and a major force 
behind Israel's rescue of Ethiopian Jews.

In later life, he settled in the Jerusalem neighborhood of Har Nof, and became active and involved in politics from a Torah perspective as the spiritual leader of the Shas party. He was known for his criticism of the Israeli Supreme Court, his love of Zion and his outspoken comments on what he believed. He was a fierce opponent of the disengagement from Gaza and of Oslo, (Shas voted against both Oslo I and Oslo II), although he said that Torah supported the trading of land..but only for a genuine peace.

Yosef's funeral procession began at 6 p.m.Local time at the Porat Yosef Yeshiva in Jerusalem's Geula neighborhood and continued to the Sanhedria Cemetery.An estimated 560,000 people marched in his funeral procession, an unbelievable 9% of the entire Israeli population. The equivalent in the U.S. would be 22,000,000 people turning out for a funeral.

Rav Yosef was a giant and a man of unbelievable spiritual power, who was addressed by his peers with the honorific Maran, master. Yet he always remained humble and never lacked the common touch, or stopped caring about ordinary people. He was noted even by those who disagreed with him as one of the greatest Torah scholars and authorities on Jewish law of his time.

Zt"L.

UPDATE: It appears that the number of Israelis mourning at the funeral of the great man is now estimated at 850,000

Wednesday, January 18, 2012

It Begins - ABC Attacks Romney For Donations To Mormon Faith



ABC began what is likely going to be a concerted attack on the Church of the Latter Day Saints now that Mitt Romney is the front runner for the GOP nomination.

Under the headline "Mitt Romney Sent Millions to Mormon Church" the story opens like this:

Underscoring the prominent, if little discussed role that Mitt Romney played as a Mormon leader, the private equity giant once run by the GOP presidential frontrunner carved his church a slice of several of its most lucrative business deals, securities records show, providing it with millions of dollars worth of stock in some of Bain Capital's most well-known holdings.

Romney has always been a major donor to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which requires that members "tithe," or give 10 percent of their income to the church. His family charity, called the Tyler Foundation, has given more than $4 million to the church in the past five years, including $1.8 million in 2008 and $600,000 in 2009. But because Romney, whose fortune has been estimated at $250 million, has never released his personal tax returns, the full extent of his giving has never been public.

Newly uncovered stock contributions made during Romney's Bain days suggest there is another dimension to Romney's support for the church -- one that could involve millions more than has been previously disclosed.


'Carved his church a slice'...brilliant choice of words. The story gets more balanced towards the end, but the opening paragraphs are all a lot of people will read, conveying the impression of a sinister, behind the scenes religious right wing mafia in which Romney's part is now 'newly uncovered'.

First of all, this is Mitt Romney's money, honestly earned and he is entitled to do what he pleases with it.The fact that he chose to give his money to an entity he has confidence will put the money to uses he approves of rather than the federal government is immaterial, and a decision a great many Americans make.

If Governor Romney wanted merely to avoid taxes, there are plenty of other avenues he could choose. Only the dinosaur media could take someone's admirable charitable impulses and try to turn it into a negative - if that someone is a Republican. Has ABC ever questioned how much money the Obamas gave over the years to Reverend Wright's bigoted little church? Based on the mansion the Obama's Trinity Church built for him when he retired, it must have been a nice chunk of change.

The LDS, by the way, is not the only religion that asks its members to tithe and just as with other faiths it is an ideal, not a requirement as ABC would have it. Moreover, while I'm not an LDS member I have personally seen how the LDS uses its money to take care of members facing financial, personal and medical emergencies. This kind of self reliance was something Mormons cultivated when they faced prejudice and persecution in the Church's early history..something they have in common with Jews, I might add.

This sleazy non-story is not going to be the last attempt to attack Governor Romney and the LDS by the dinosaur media. They're just getting warmed up.