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Very nice post for a Sunday night. Thanks for the much needed inspiration and a Happy Passover to you sir!
Pessah Sameach, Chaver!
If she's going to run, it is likely going to have to be as a third party candidate. I just don't see the Republican party nominating her even if she were a shoe in for the win somehow. I think they'd just as soon slit their wrists rather than allow her the nomination. Hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully they wouldn't exclude someone just because they don't like her. In order for her or anyone else to have a chance, the country has to actually survive until 2012. Right now I'd say the country has about a 10% chance, mayb less of actually surviving until 2012. Again, I pray I'm wrong.Assuming the country can survive long enough to have another election and to possibly get the current leaers out, what do you think about a Trump-Palin ticket with Mr. Trump as the Presidential candidate and Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential candidate?
If she's going to run, it is likely going to have to be as a third party candidate. I just don't see the Republican party nominating her even if she were a shoe in for the win somehow.Watch what happens.what do you think about a Trump-Palin ticket with Mr. Trump as the Presidential candidate and Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential candidate? Not much.Regards,Rob
Sarah Palin is the one I’m voting for. She wants to unite the Republican party, but if she doesn’t and the party puts up a Mitt or Huck that couldn’t even beat McCain in 2008, then I’ll write her name in and vote for her. I’m not going to vote for the lesser of two evils when we have a great candidate ready, willing, and able.
Rob,Thanks for the reply to my post and for answering the questions I posed, however, this leads to additional questions. 1.) You say "watch what happens." What precisely do you think will "happen" that will make Mrs. Palin acceptable to the Republican leadership who selects, funds, and pushes the advertising for the candidates? 1.) While I tend to agree that Mr. Trump is not a serious candidate. The public has been pretty well innoculated against claims regarding Mr. Obama's birth. As such, a serious candidtate probabaly doesn't bring such things up. That is unless Mr. Trump knows something we don't!! A very real possibility, I think. Furthermore at this time I don't see Mr. Trump being acceptable Republican party elites but that could change. If it does change, he could be the nominee for Presient and Mrs. Palin as VP just might be acceptable to the GOP elite and it would help to keep Mrs. Palin's upporters in the fold. I don't think such a ticket would materialize simply because the GOP hates Mrs. Palin to much. Someone with the mentatlity of a business man is exactly what we need to lead our nation right now. There have been very few business men who have been as successful as Mr. Trump!! When replying to my post your answer is "not much." 2.) Can you clarify what problems you have with Mr. Trump should he decide to be a serious candidate?
Hello Poster,1. Governor Palin, will never be acceptable to the GOP establishment - neither was Reagan. Events have a way of creating their own dynamic.Palin was both crafty and selfless in keeping the Tea Party within the GOP tent.If they nominate an establishment Republican, they will go the way of the Whigs. Not being suicidal, I don't think they will.2. I don't think the public has been inoculated in the least regarding the questions surrounding Obama's birth.Seen the polls on this lately? Nothing short of his real, long form birth certificate with notarized signatures is going to do that, and that's obviously not going to happen or Obama would have trotted it out already.Best selling author Jerome Corsi of Swiftboat fame has just released a book on this subject that I guarantee you will fan the flames.3. I don't think Donald Trump is a serious presidential candidate. His business sense is also questionable, as he's gone broke twice. He's also very liberal on the social issues, which is not going to endear him to the GOP base and has far too many associations with Leftist Democrats over his career.I also question whether he has the subtlety and political skills needed for the job.Regards,Rob
Rob,Thanks for the reply to my post. 1.) I pray you are right and the Republicans will not exclude Mrs. Palin simply becuase they do not like her. While I agree the need to survive is strong, ideology can also be strong. 2.) Jerome Corsi is simply preaching to the choir at this point. His book will probably make him alot of money but it will not convert any one to the position. As for my personal opinion on this, it would appear that Mr. Obama is definitely hiding something but the public as a whole has been inoculated agains tthis position. As such, serious candidates don't bring it up unles they know something the rest of us don't.!! I'd like for Mr. Obama to release the long form of his birth certificate. If Mr. Trump can ger to the bottom of this, that would be awesome!!3.) Wtih regards to Mr. Trump's business sense I'm aware of one time he went broke. I was not aware he's gone broke twice. Apparently he's recovered. America has for all intents and purposes gone broke. Since Mr. Trump has experience of recovering from this, he may just be the person the country needs as POTUS!! As for Mr. Trump's social positons, America whether you or I like it or not, is a left of center nation both socially and fically. As such, his social positions will be more in line with the populace than will those of Mrs. Palin or the Republican base. This is the crux of the issue that you, I, the Republican party and the "base" face. We need the base to win but we can't expect to win with only the base. The Republican party compounds its problems because ost of its leadership hate the base of the party!! Mr. Trump's social stances are more likely to bring in independents and main stream Americans than having Mrs. Palin at the top of the ticket would. "I also question whether he has the subtlety and the politcal skills needed for the job." I tend to agree. My impression of him is he is a "bull in a china closet." I think he is used to being the "alpha" person and this is how he approaches. As POTUS he will not be the alpha. Assuming the country survives long enough to get a new POTUS in place, this person will have to operate in a world where the most powerful nations are Russia, China, and very likely India. Also, any combination of two or more Western European countries will be able to easily out power America economically and possibly even militarily. As it currently stands, most of these countries are hostile to America. In terms of foreigh relations, the biggest problems America has are its military is worn down and inadequate to meet the needs of the 21st century, at least this is so should it find itself in a conflict with either Russia, China, or probably India and there isn't sufficient funds or technical experties to address this problem in the short to mid term. Also, America is almost universially despised. The next POTUS, assuming the nation survives long enough to install a new POTUS, will have to deal with this reality and mend foreign relations. I'm not sure the bull in a China closet approach is a good one here.
Well Poster, I disagree with your conclusions on a number of points,(for instance, Gallup shows that 1 in 5 Americans overall and 54% of Republicans feel Obama was born outside this country) but you're certainly entitled.Regards,Rob
This means 4 in 5 Americans don't believe he was born outside of the country and the 4 in 5 who don't believe this view the 1 in 5 as absolute idiots. 54% of Republicans believe it. This may pose a problem for the Republican party. "Independents" have been effectively inoculated against this issue and will hold it against a party whose "base" embraces this issue. This isn't necessarily going to prevent the Republicans from winning but its certainly not going to be helpful to them. For what its worth, I think Obama was likely born in the US but is most likely hiding something about his birth. There's any number of theories on this. You are likely famillar with all of them. If he's not hiding something, he'd likely have simply released the long form birth certificate. Now does Mr. Trump know something we don't about all of this? He just might. If he doesn't he endagers his other business interests in pushing this issue.
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Very nice post for a Sunday night. Thanks for the much needed inspiration and a Happy Passover to you sir!
Pessah Sameach, Chaver!
If she's going to run, it is likely going to have to be as a third party candidate. I just don't see the Republican party nominating her even if she were a shoe in for the win somehow. I think they'd just as soon slit their wrists rather than allow her the nomination. Hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully they wouldn't exclude someone just because they don't like her. In order for her or anyone else to have a chance, the country has to actually survive until 2012.
Right now I'd say the country has about a 10% chance, mayb less of actually surviving until 2012. Again, I pray I'm wrong.
Assuming the country can survive long enough to have another election and to possibly get the current leaers out, what do you think about a Trump-Palin ticket with Mr. Trump as the Presidential candidate and Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential candidate?
If she's going to run, it is likely going to have to be as a third party candidate. I just don't see the Republican party nominating her even if she were a shoe in for the win somehow.
Watch what happens.
what do you think about a Trump-Palin ticket with Mr. Trump as the Presidential candidate and Sarah Palin as the Vice Presidential candidate?
Not much.
Regards,
Rob
Sarah Palin is the one I’m voting for. She wants to unite the Republican party, but if she doesn’t and the party puts up a Mitt or Huck that couldn’t even beat McCain in 2008, then I’ll write her name in and vote for her.
I’m not going to vote for the lesser of two evils when we have a great candidate ready, willing, and able.
Rob,
Thanks for the reply to my post and for answering the questions I posed, however, this leads to additional questions. 1.) You say "watch what happens." What precisely do you think will "happen" that will make Mrs. Palin acceptable to the Republican leadership who selects, funds, and pushes the advertising for the candidates?
1.) While I tend to agree that Mr. Trump is not a serious candidate. The public has been pretty well innoculated against claims regarding Mr. Obama's birth. As such, a serious candidtate probabaly doesn't bring such things up. That is unless Mr. Trump knows something we don't!! A very real possibility, I think.
Furthermore at this time I don't see Mr. Trump being acceptable Republican party elites but that could change. If it does change, he could be the nominee for Presient and Mrs. Palin as VP just might be acceptable to the GOP elite and it would help to keep Mrs. Palin's upporters in the fold. I don't think such a ticket would materialize simply because the GOP hates Mrs. Palin to much.
Someone with the mentatlity of a business man is exactly what we need to lead our nation right now. There have been very few business men who have been as successful as Mr. Trump!! When replying to my post your answer is "not much." 2.) Can you clarify what problems you have with Mr. Trump should he decide to be a serious candidate?
Hello Poster,
1. Governor Palin, will never be acceptable to the GOP establishment - neither was Reagan. Events have a way of creating their own dynamic.
Palin was both crafty and selfless in keeping the Tea Party within the GOP tent.If they nominate an establishment Republican, they will go the way of the Whigs. Not being suicidal, I don't think they will.
2. I don't think the public has been inoculated in the least regarding the questions surrounding Obama's birth.Seen the polls on this lately? Nothing short of his real, long form birth certificate with notarized signatures is going to do that, and that's obviously not going to happen or Obama would have trotted it out already.
Best selling author Jerome Corsi of Swiftboat fame has just released a book on this subject that I guarantee you will fan the flames.
3. I don't think Donald Trump is a serious presidential candidate. His business sense is also questionable, as he's gone broke twice. He's also very liberal on the social issues, which is not going to endear him to the GOP base and has far too many associations with Leftist Democrats over his career.
I also question whether he has the subtlety and political skills needed for the job.
Regards,
Rob
Rob,
Thanks for the reply to my post.
1.) I pray you are right and the Republicans will not exclude Mrs. Palin simply becuase they do not like her. While I agree the need to survive is strong, ideology can also be strong.
2.) Jerome Corsi is simply preaching to the choir at this point. His book will probably make him alot of money but it will not convert any one to the position. As for my personal opinion on this, it would appear that Mr. Obama is definitely hiding something but the public as a whole has been inoculated agains tthis position. As such, serious candidates don't bring it up unles they know something the rest of us don't.!! I'd like for Mr. Obama to release the long form of his birth certificate. If Mr. Trump can ger to the bottom of this, that would be awesome!!
3.) Wtih regards to Mr. Trump's business sense I'm aware of one time he went broke. I was not aware he's gone broke twice. Apparently he's recovered. America has for all intents and purposes gone broke. Since Mr. Trump has experience of recovering from this, he may just be the person the country needs as POTUS!!
As for Mr. Trump's social positons, America whether you or I like it or not, is a left of center nation both socially and fically. As such, his social positions will be more in line with the populace than will those of Mrs. Palin or the Republican base. This is the crux of the issue that you, I, the Republican party and the "base" face. We need the base to win but we can't expect to win with only the base. The Republican party compounds its problems because ost of its leadership hate the base of the party!! Mr. Trump's social stances are more likely to bring in independents and main stream Americans than having Mrs. Palin at the top of the ticket would.
"I also question whether he has the subtlety and the politcal skills needed for the job." I tend to agree. My impression of him is he is a "bull in a china closet." I think he is used to being the "alpha" person and this is how he approaches. As POTUS he will not be the alpha. Assuming the country survives long enough to get a new POTUS in place, this person will have to operate in a world where the most powerful nations are Russia, China, and very likely India. Also, any combination of two or more Western European countries will be able to easily out power America economically and possibly even militarily. As it currently stands, most of these countries are hostile to America.
In terms of foreigh relations, the biggest problems America has are its military is worn down and inadequate to meet the needs of the 21st century, at least this is so should it find itself in a conflict with either Russia, China, or probably India and there isn't sufficient funds or technical experties to address this problem in the short to mid term. Also, America is almost universially despised. The next POTUS, assuming the nation survives long enough to install a new POTUS, will have to deal with this reality and mend foreign relations. I'm not sure the bull in a China closet approach is a good one here.
Well Poster, I disagree with your conclusions on a number of points,
(for instance, Gallup shows that 1 in 5 Americans overall and 54% of Republicans feel Obama was born outside this country) but you're certainly entitled.
Regards,
Rob
This means 4 in 5 Americans don't believe he was born outside of the country and the 4 in 5 who don't believe this view the 1 in 5 as absolute idiots. 54% of Republicans believe it. This may pose a problem for the Republican party. "Independents" have been effectively inoculated against this issue and will hold it against a party whose "base" embraces this issue. This isn't necessarily going to prevent the Republicans from winning but its certainly not going to be helpful to them.
For what its worth, I think Obama was likely born in the US but is most likely hiding something about his birth. There's any number of theories on this. You are likely famillar with all of them. If he's not hiding something, he'd likely have simply released the long form birth certificate. Now does Mr. Trump know something we don't about all of this? He just might. If he doesn't he endagers his other business interests in pushing this issue.
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