Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Obama VS. Hilly - The Fist Fight In Philly

I'm surprised the Dems didn't try hawking this bout on pay-per-view.But then, a couple of honest prize fighters might have felt a little soiled to appear on this particular card.

Never you mind...I watch these sordid affairs so you don't have to.

Lady Macbeth's one chance was to throw everything but the kitchen sink at Obama, and try to make it stick. And she gave it a decent try, aided and abetted by Charlie Gibson and ex-Clintonista George Stephanopoulos. Unfortunately for her,one's own hands have to be at least relatively clean for that to work. Difficult it is to call someone a pig when you're such a well known denizen of the sty yourself.

Thus, the first 45 minutes or so, the 'debate' concentrated on who's errors,past questionable practices and associations and outright lies made them look worse.

Everything came into the mix tonight. Obama was hit for his patronizing remarks about small town America; He came back lamely with Hillary's famous `I could have stayed home and baked cookies ' remark over a decade ago. She brought up Obama's associations with bomb tossing radicals like Bill Ayres and Bernadine Dorhn of the Weather Underground; Obama came back swinging by bringing up two members of the group in jail for murder who's sentences were commuted by none other than Mr. Bill.

Obama had to deal with Jeremiah Wright, which he pretty much was allowed to sluff off. According to Jesus II, the good reverend is a sterling patriot because he served in the marines and `loves this country but also angry about injustices.' Yes..and angry about Jews, Israel, white folks and AmeriKKKa in general, hmmm?

Hillary made an attempt to toss Louis Farrakhan and Hamas into that particular stew of Obama negatives as well.

For her part,Hillary had to duck a little fallout over her Bosnia tall story,which she apologized for,saying "I was not as accurate as I have been in the past". (Hah!!!)

In one of the most inadvertently funny moments of the whole tawdry affair, one of the locals came up to the mike just then and told Hillary that he had been supporting her but that she had lost his vote over this particular `mis-remembering.' I swear, some adult beverage almost shot back out through my nose...this retard who's probably allowed to vote, drive, and operate heavy machinery looks at this woman who's been telling whoppers in the public eye on a regular basis for almost two decades and says he's going to quit her now over some bolshoi about sniper fire that never happened? And not only that, this guy,who's upset over being lied to is going to vote for someone like Obama???

The rest was mostly downhill after that high moment of comedy.

Foreign policy? A race to see who can surrender and pull out faster. Both Clinton and Obama even went as far as to say that they would pull out immediately even if US military commanders advised against it.

Gun control? Let's pretend nobody asked us about that one.

Israel? When asked what they would do if Iran attacked Israel, Obama merely said it would be 'unacceptable', by which I suppose he means he'd make a firm protest on the matter at the UN ; it was left for Hillary to say that such an attack would trigger 'massive retaliation' by the US. She'll catch hell for that from the Angry Left, but then, they mostly aren't voting for her anyway.
Obama, on the other hand, spent the afternoon talking to a gathering of Jewish community leaders trying to reassure them that the anti-Semites and Israel bashers that are flocking to his support are just a coincidence. After tonight's remarks, Obama may have some explaining to do. Of course, if he loses, his people will blame on the Jews anyway,no matter how many of them are silly enough to vote for him...

Taxes? Again, both Hillary and Obama love the idea of taxing 'the rich' and seem to finally agree that $200,000 per year is a good number. And they both want to raise the capital gains tax. Of course, that won't provide anything like the amount of money these two genial marxists are going to need to pay for all the gimmees they've promised to try and bribe the electorate, so that $200,000 threshold will need to be lowered quite a bit. But hey....mere details. All power to the revolution!

All things considered, Hillary almost accomplished what she needed to do tonight. She was mostly able to keep Obama on the defensive, and as always when Obama is working without a script and a teleprompter, he came across as somewhat befuddled and indecisive.

Hillary's problem, of course, is the baggage she carries from the Clinton era, both her own and Mr. Bill's. It continues to weigh her down, and it's not going away.

Lady Macbeth needs a big win in Pennsylvania - at least ten points - and a win in Indiana. And more importantly, she needs to win decisively among whites and Latinos in order to convince the superdelegates that Obama has no chance in the general election against McCain.

Time will tell, but I can't see it as better than a four to one shot.Three to one if she manages to win Pennsylvania by a double digit margin.


Anonymous said...


Hillary And Obama Spar Over...Weather Underground


I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the woods foundation, which was a paid directorship position. And if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments,

which were deeply hurtful to people in New York, and I would hope to every American, because they were published on 9/11

Barack Obama stumbles in hostile TV debate


She also blasted Mr Obama for sitting on the board of a Chicago philanthropic group with links to William Ayers, a former member of the Weather Underground. In comments published, coincidentally, on September 11 2001, Mr Ayers was unrepentant about bombing the Pentagon and other US government buildings.

Mrs Clinton said: "If I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York and, I would hope, to every American, because they were published on 9/11

Freedom Fighter said...

Oh, I agree, Sister. Though I would point out that the Clintons commuted the sentences of two of these murderers from the Weather Underground before Mr. Bill left office.

The reality is that both of these candidates have some major background in radical politics...and they both were trained by Saul Alinsky, a communist radical professor. Google him sometime.


Anonymous said...

Alinsky grew up in Chicago, experiencing many of the same frustrations that now embitter the city's blacks. The son of a Jewish tailor

Freedom Fighter said...

What's your point, anonymous? Or more to the point, what's your beef?

Alinsky was nothing but a communist agitator who was allowed to rise to a position of prominence he never would have attained elsewhere by the same system he viciously attacked.

The same thing could be said of 'embittered blacks' like Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan..and there's a word for vicious parasites like that where I come from.

And why bother to mention that Alinksy (an atheist) was of Jewish ancestry? What has that got to do with anything?

You're obviously trying to make some kind of point...feel free to do so.